Say what?

by , posted on August 12th, 2010 in Mama Kat's Writing Workshop




Someone I consider a friend called me an asshole today.

An asshole.

Because she disagreed with me about something to do with politics. And we are both democrats. She then sternly told me just because we agree on some things doesn’t mean she has to agree with me on everything. I said that was true. Her final pronouncement was that I was “wrong.” Actually, that I was “WRONG.” It was definitely an all-caps kind of statement. Or shout.

I’ve never been called an asshole before. I don’t even think behind my back. I mean, I’m sure I’ve been called other things, like, you know, awesome and all that. But asshole?

It was so unlike her.

She stormed off. I stood there, looking through the newspaper for another minute, trying to gather my thoughts before I walked away.

I was upset. As anyone who was just attacked would be. It’s tough sometimes to look beyond the incident and wonder what happened to her today that would cause her to call me a name and to act like, well, an asshole.

What could I have done differently? How did the situation blow up?

She’s always been great. Kind to my kids, gives them gifts for their birthdays and Christmas, listens to them yammer as she’s trying to get yard work done. Her boyfriend even made Sage’s birthday cake one year. She’s smart and funny and I’d hate to have this cause a permanent rift.

We never know if something we say will unknowingly touch a nerve and set someone off. I think it’s not always about what we do or don’t do, what we say or don’t say, whether an eyebrow was raised a millimeter too high. We only have so much control.

Sure, I wished I’d said something like “Don’t EVER call me an asshole, and, actually, I’m not WRONG just because you say I am” but you know what? I was not only stunned at what just happened – don’t you hate that? When your jaw is hanging open so you can’t start forming the words you’ll think of a few minutes after the confrontation is over? – I also didn’t want to escalate the situation.

But I’ll be waiting for an explanation. And an apology.

In the meantime, I’ll focus on this. Because how can someone who’s an asshole produce something this freakin’ adorable?

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This post was based on the prompt “Lou Holtz once said, “life is ten percent what happens to you and ninety percent how you respond to it.” Do you believe this? Describe a time when you feel like you could have responded a different way and produced a different outcome” from Mama Kat’s writing workshop.

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63 Responses to “Say what?”

  1. margaret Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 6:39 am

    wow, an asshole huh? that was harsh from a friend no less.
    If she doesn’t apologize then what? If she acts like nothing ever happened will you address it or let it slide?
    just curious I guess. I am typing this and thinking about what I’d do if this happened to me.

    And no I don’t agree 100% of what Lou Holtz said. But I get the comment. I always tell my nieces that what happens to you doesn’t make you who you are it’s how you deal with it that does. Same sentiment for the most part.

    Have a great day.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    It’s funny to call a woman one, too. I’m sure we’ll have a discussion about it. We can’t avoid each other. And? Lou Holtz is insane. But I kinda get what he means. ;)

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  2. Sunday Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 7:15 am

    I have a couple friends like this. We agree politically but there are certain core issues where we waver.
    None have ever called me an A#$hole but I have been called naive.
    I do hope you get the explanation and an apology….otherwise how can you ever really talk to this friend about anything of any weight again?

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    Cheryl Reply:

    Yes. Now that this is happened, I just won’t talk to her about politics ever again. If we speak again, that is. Which I’m sure we will.

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  3. Lindsay @ Just My Blog Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Wow. I guess whatever you must have been discussing was either a very touchy subject or she ran out of rebuttals. Whatever the case, namecalling is never appropriate past third grade and I hope she comes around and apologizes.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    Thing is, I didn’t think it was touchy AT ALL. Shows you what I know! But yes, name-calling is ridiculous and completely inappropriate.

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  4. Leah Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Wow, that was pretty harsh. But I give you props on how you handled it…and very good insight. It always takes me a while to think about stuff and instead of blaming them(which I most always do) I try to think that maybe something else contributed to it!

    Thanks for sharing! Stopping by from Mama Kat’s.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I work hard on not taking everything personally! I think the reaction was so disproportionate from the discussion that how could I take it personally, you know? Thanks for stopping by!

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  5. Catherine Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    Politics really brings out the worst in people. I really hope she apologizes to you that’s ridiculous.

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    Cheryl Reply:

    It does bring out the worst in people, doesn’t it? That and discussions about religions, ironically..

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  6. Rudri Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    Harsh words from a friend… perhaps it was the intensity of the subject matter that got to her. Since she has always been great, I think she deserves a second chance.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I thought it was fairly innocuous, but it goes to show you just never know what will set another person off.

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  7. Danielle Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    He is too cute!. But calling you an asshole just because you disagred? Name calling is childish. Tell her how you feel and move past it.I agree, good friends deserve second chances. Not that she should call you names all the time, but a little hot moment, hopfully shouldn’t ruin a friendship.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I’m hoping we’ll move past it. But if we don’t, then it’s on her. Do women really call other women assholes?

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  8. SuziCate Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Wow, that is just crazy. You were the better person by not responding. I often think of a retort well after the fact, and it is always better that I had not said such retort. I hope she apoogizes to you.

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    Cheryl Reply:

    Yes, I also always think “Oh, I shoulda said THAT” like an hour later. But yes, I didn’t want to further escalate a situation that should not have been heated to begin with!

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  9. TheKitchenWitch Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    If I ever call you an asshole, I promise to do it in only the most caring and loving way. ((you))
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I would consider it a great honor if you called me an asshole. ;)

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  10. themombshell Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 9:43 am

    You were being so youish when you thought what could have happened that day for her to act that way. So true (I would have just thought ‘what a bitch’) but who knows what could have happened pre-asshole, maybe her dog pooped on the floor and she stepped in it, or she spilled coffee on her favourite shirt, or somebody cut her off almost causing an accident. Whatever the case, inappropriate, but good on you for not feeding into the drama. Also X = cute, all he needs is a really awesome bag. Oh wait…
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    Cheryl Reply:

    Yep. You just don’t know what goes on with other people. As for X, did you notice his fab shoe?? He’s SO ready for a hot bag. He is!

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  11. Tooje Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    It’s definitely interesting how the topics within politics can define our characters to others. In essence, I suppose what we believe to be right politically does define our core values, to an extent. I hope that you two get it worked out and get to the root of the problem. It sounds like there is a root buried deep, somewhere. :)

    And yes, no asshole could make such cute beings. Well…

    …wait. I take that back. I call Hubs that and I think our kids are cute.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I totally agree that politics does reflect are core value. Well, maybe politicians themselves don’t, but for sure our political ideals do.

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  12. Funkidivagirl Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am

    If I ever call someone an asshole I know full well what I’m saying and the consequences that would follow (like they would never speak to me again). That was really harsh–no matter what your political differences.

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    Cheryl Reply:

    Asshole is just so…coarse. If I’m going to be called a name, I’d want it to be something more high-brow. Like an em effer or something! I have for sure been called worse, but not for a very, very long time!

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  13. Jennifer Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    I so went through something like this with a friend. Maybe we didn’t call each other assholes, but we might as well have. Politically, we also share the same ideals (for the most part)… and our fight had nothing to do with actual politics, but maybe with social choices that one with a more liberal stance takes? We have repaired the friendship, but I can tell you that it’s never been the same since. I’m hoping that the two of you can work it out, because it sounds like her friendship is important to you.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    It won’t be the same. I’ve heard worse things spouted among friends that I vehemently disagreed with but never, ever I have called someone an asshole. Maybe a prick, but never an asshole. ;)

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  14. Cheryl D. Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Wow! Politics can certainly touch nerves. But name calling is never okay. And there are no “RIGHT” or “WRONG” when it comes to opinions. I think you handled the situation beautifully. Now, the ball is in her court to do the right thing.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    Thanks, Cheryl. To pronounce someone WRONG because you disagree with them is not so cool. Again, she’s normally not like this, so we’ll see what happens.

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  15. Kirsten Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    I think the very best response in the moment was not to say anything. I think when we feel personally attacked (which, in this case, YOU WERE) it a natural, split-second response to say defensive angry things when we would *want* to make a reasoned, balanced and CRUSHING answer.

    Is there any way you could email this person and let her know how hurtful her words were, regardless of subject matter? B/c I’m guessing that someone who feels it is appropriate to use the A-word when addressing an acquaintance is not going to be sensitive enough to understand that a) she hurt you and b) it was inappropriate.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    Oh, I’m sure she knows. I mean, she’s usually really great. That’s why this was so out of left field. I’m not going to email. I’m not in the wrong, despite what she might think ;)

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  16. Bethany Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Dude, that’s just not cool. I’m sure she’ll feel like an idiot soon and it’ll all be ok. People who can’t stand opposition should never talk politics! :)
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I’m sure it’ll all be fine. But not the same. You know?

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  17. KLZ Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Um, I know this is off topic, but I get called an asshole on a more frequent basis than you’d think. But then my sense of humor is kind of assholey so I don’t mind.

    Give it time. It’ll work out somehow.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    You?? I don’t believe it! You ARE coming to BlogHer next year, right? And maybe BBC?

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  18. Shelley Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Yikes. That’s why talking politics is a no no most of the time!!

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    Cheryl Reply:

    I have learned that lesson now – even when you think it’s “safe”!

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  19. Peg Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    That was WAY harsh. And THAT my friend is why I don’t discuss politics with friends! You responded (by NOT responding) in probably the best possible way!
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I learned that lesson the hard way I guess!

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  20. Ash Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Oh, ouch.

    I agree with the above comments, debating politics is touchy, at best (my best friend and I are opposite on the spectrum – crazy, right?) – but once someone resorts to personal attacks, it just makes that person look like the idiot.

    I hope she has the courage to apologize and mend ways. Sometimes I have to remind myself that friendships need as much leeway as a marriage. Not that I’ve actually called Hubs an “asshole” to his face, but I’ve thought it, on multiple occasions. I can only imagine what goes through his mind.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    We’ll see what happens. It was so out of character for her I’m sure we’ll have a discussion about it. And then I’ll report back! ;)

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  21. undomestic Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Wow! I’ve never understood people who call each other names based on disagreements on beliefs or feelings (not that it’s okay to call people names at all!). Hope she comes to her senses and apologizes and you two are able to get past it.
    Stopped in from Mama Kat’s.

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    Cheryl Reply:

    I hope so too!! thanks for stopping by!

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  22. liz Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    when i first started reading, i thought this was going to be a blogosphere story because 2 bloggers were “having words” yesterday because of a political disagreement.

    i think being called an asshole would bother me, too. almost more than a word like bitch.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    Really? A blogosphere battle? Sorry to have missed it! NOT! I never get that stuff. I mean, if you don’t like someone says, as long as they’re not personally attacking you, just move on to the next blog. You know?

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  23. Figments of a Mom Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    OMYG that would really piss me off. I would fume until it was resolved.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I lack the energy to fume. Is that sad?

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  24. The Mayor! Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Yeah, people just kinda suck…especially the people who are clearly blind with jealousy by your sheer awesomness that they have to resort to petty name calling LOL…

    But seriously, I do agree with you & think it shows that awesomeness by acknowledging the friend she has been & allowing her the benefit of the doubt of what she may have been dealing with to cause her to react this way. I think you may very well get that apology…especially if she reads your blog…LOL!

    :-D
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I am awesome. Yes I am. HA!!

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  25. Corinne Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Wow. I’d be left pretty speechless as well.
    In fact, I am pretty speechless.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    Again, I chalk it up to her having a really bad day.

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  26. Rachel {at} Mommy Needs a Vacation Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Ahh yes the religion/politics discussions. I try not to have them! And yes you my dear asshole, produced a very cute kiddo!! Ha!
    I love this take on the writing prompt!!!
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I’ve had some great discussions about religions, but only with people who are actually interested in talking about it and not trying to convert me.

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  27. Heather Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    That is why I totally stay clear of talking about politics & religion. My dad always gets so heated on these subjects and I always try to just change the subject. I hate confrontation. I’m sorry to hear this happened with a good friend. I’m sure it’s going to be really hard to forget it happened even if she does apologize or explain herself.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I hate confrontation to. I really, really do!

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  28. Booyah's Momma Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    First, ouch. Sorry this happened to you. Asshole is a pretty strong word, even more so from a friend.

    Second, they were wrong. Because clearly an asshole couldn’t produce offspring that cute. The single pink heel makes it even cuter.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    That’s what I thought. I mean, an asshole can’t bring talent like that into the world, right?

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  29. Jasmine @ Eat Move Write Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Who calls their friend an asshole? That’s so harsh. How bizarre. Maybe she’s just having a REALLY bad day?…
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    Cheryl Reply:

    Yes. A no-good very bad day! At least, I hope so!

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  30. Aging Mommy Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    If you are really good friends and have never had an altercation like this before then were it me I’d be trying desperately to figure out why – sounds as if the “reason” is nothing to do with your conversation and everything to do with something else. I hope you are able to reconcile and discover what was really going on here.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    I’m sure it’ll resolve. I hope so, anyway..

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  31. Laura @ The Things I Saidd I'd Never Do Says:

    August 13th, 2010 at 8:14 am

    I can get worked up about politics but I don’t think I’ve ever called anyone an asshole based on their political leanings. Well, maybe the commentators on Fox News, but they don’t really count.

    I hope this gets resolved soon.
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    Cheryl Reply:

    HA! Yes, I believe I *might* have said the same thing, shouting at the TV!

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  32. MOMSICLE VIBE Says:

    August 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Ouch. That is one of my major malfunctions – the stunned prey look as the wheels in my head squeak to a stop. I HATE THAT. Why can’t we communicate better in those situations? That and the angry/frustrated cry are two of my biggest peeves. Being flooded with well thought out responses after the fact are USELESS! UGH, makes me mad just thinking about it!
    Speaking as someone that only virtually knows you, you seem pretty great. I doubt you’re an asshole. I hope you get your apology!
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